February 15, 2015

Taxed By The Mile? Oregon DOT Rolls Out New Tax Plan For Drivers

October 29, 2014

PORTLAND, Ore. (KOIN 6) — Oregon will soon be the first state in the nation to charge drivers by the mile for maintaining the state’s roads in a test to begin next year.

ODOT is moving ahead with the road use fee to replace the gasoline tax. As cars get more fuel efficient, gas tax revenue is going down, and the state is looking for better ways to pay for keeping the roads in good shape.

Drivers pay 30-cents per gallon in gas taxes every time they stop to fill up. That adds up to hundreds of millions of dollars per year. But ODOT said that’s not enough to maintain the roads.



Two pilot programs were undertaken, each with electronic devices attached to cars to calculate how many miles a driver travels. A driver will then get a bill at the end of the month, and then a refund of the gas tax.

The fee — 1.5 cents a mile — will roll out July 1, 2015 through 5,000 volunteer participants. ODOT and the volunteers will see how it works, and then the Oregon legislature will decide when it will be expanded to the rest of the state’s drivers.

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  • binaryloop

    “road use fee to replace the gasoline tax”

    Ahahahahahhaa! If you believe that, I have a bridge in New York that it currently for sale. In the end, drivers will pay BOTH fuel taxes and road use taxes. The Government never let’s a source of revenue go to waste. They just figured out a new way to squeeze more money out of clueless idiots. In Illinois, the state told drivers: “We’re going to install toll booths just to pay for the roads”. The roads have been paid for for 40+ years and the toll booths are still there.

    • JAM

      I was recently in Illinois and see they have really raised the tolls, too. They did the same thing in Central Texas to allegedly deal with the horrific traffic and then decided to do away with the toll booth workers (allegedly to save money, right?). They then hiked the tolls significantly after doing that! Big government at its finest. They have never met a tax they didn’t like

    • Kurt

      Well we have to have some way of paying for all of the expensive pedestrian/bicycle bridges that Portland bureaucrats have had built. All those who drive cars MUST be rich so, tax them.

      • tionico

        the new mileage tax is for REPAIR and MAINTENANCE< not new construction. Talk to the Portland City Government hooh haha about those stupid overly expensive projects.

    • dooglio

      I have no problem with people paying for what they use. However, if Godfrey is truly caring about what is “best for Oregon” (assuming he’s not just talking about Oregon’s government), then the right thing to do is to sell off the roads to private interests. Roads are just another good/service that should be offered voluntarily, not over the barrel of the state’s guns. In others words, we should end the state’s monopoly on roads.

      Let private businesses run the roads and decide how they should be funded.

  • Tumbleweed

    Amazing that voters will get stung at the pump and then with a use tax! Do you think that the driving tax will go up just as soon as people get used to it? Democrats never met or created a tax they didn’t really like! Vote your democrats out while you still have some money left!

    • binaryloop

      In “Taxxachusetts” (MA) they created something called “Excise Tax” (http://www.mass.gov/dor/local-officials/municipal-finance-law/frequently-asked-questions-motor-vehicle-excise.html#q11). It’s a tax simply on owning a car. It’s based on the value of your vehicle.

      • Michael Sholtis

        I think there are 5 or 6 states that do that now. It has been done in North Carolina for some time. I was told by several old established political families once I moved to the area the reason for that is because NC has no toll roads. Well guess what we have now, toll roads (not many but they are building them). I guess they have let enough water under the bridge and it was time to start milking us even more…

      • J. Bailey

        Called “Personal Property Tax” in Virginia … if not paid a lien can be placed on your property, even your home & certainly incarceration remains an option for THEM … Yes, this cancer is creeping nationwide … We aren’t all destitute YET …

  • Blank Reg

    Golden Gate Bridge, same deal….the toll booths were only going to be there until the bridge was paid for.

  • Capt. Parker

    O.K., so you will be charged for the number of miles driven …. and receive a “rebate” for the ‘per-gallon’ tax that you have already paid ….how? Will you have to save all of your receipts for the fuel you bought? Will this “device” record the number of gallons purchased?
    What about when you “drive” outside of the State of Oregon … will you still be charged for those miles? Will you still receive a “rebate” for every gallon purchased outside of Oregon?
    What about those from outside of Oregon who use Oregon roads and pay Oregon road use tax on a ‘per-gallon’ basis.
    What about the “federal” road use tax that everyone pays on every gallon of fuel purchased? That money goes back to the States, including Oregon, are you going to get a “rebate” of those taxes as well?

    Don’t even get me started on the FACT that “driving” is a “licensed profession” and the FACT that WE THE PEOPLE have an ABSOLUTE RIGHT to journey, at our leisure, for our own private pleasure, in our own private conveyance. Constitutionally, one only has to “license” one’s “vehicle” if it is being used for “business” purposes and one only has to be “licensed” if one is engaging in a “profession” while “driving”.

    Our TYRANNICAL GOVERNMENT must be put back in it’s Constitution Place, by force if necessary.
    The “government” is OUR SERVANT, created by WE THE PEOPLE – their MASTER.

    • Useless Driver

      If it is true that governments are instituted by the consent of the governed (and it is true), then who is at fault here? How are they getting their consent?
      The answer is in the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments.

    • BillRind

      Right On, and all good valid points which the assholes in the DOT will not answer, because they are using Oregon as a test state to see if they can push their evil and satanic Marxist schemes nationwide. a civil war is the only thing we have left at our disposal to stop these insane democratic Marxist madmen in their tracks.

    • EastBeast

      OK, a couple things…yes, the mileage tax will apply when out of state driving occurs. No, the rebate for gas purchases out of the state will not apply, since the purchase was not taxed by Oregon. BS for sure. Also, the ODOT doesn’t see the “right to journey” as a right while on public roads, sorry to say. If the good people of Oregon aren’t close to voting the sub-humans making these laws, then it’s their own fault! Sorry!

  • Doubting Thomas

    Hmmm!
    Let’s do a little “math” shall we?

    With a $0.015 per mile tax – if you drive 12,000 miles per year …… you pay $180 in mileage tax.
    If you drive 12,000 miles per years in a car that gets 35mpg, you pay $103 in ‘road use tax’ on a per gallon basis.
    If your car gets better than 20mpg, you will be paying more ‘by the mile’.
    I drive a 1 Ton Dodge diesel that gets 20mpg on the highway, sure it get about 15 around town and a bit less in 4wd with a plow on the front. Let’s say that I ‘average’ 15mpg over 12,000 miles. I would still pay the $180 in ‘by the mile’ tax while burning 800 gallons of fuel. At $0.30 per gallon road use tax, that is $240 … anyone know the ‘road use tax’ on diesel in Oregon? Anyway, it works out to a saving of $60 per year – just want to say “thanks” to all the people driving the 1500 pound tinfoil death traps that are not big enough to haul much of anything.

    And, you know that eventually you will be paying “by the mile” AND “by the gallon” anyway.
    No matter how much money the “government” extorts from WE THE PEOPLE, it is never enough because they ALWAYS find a way to spend more than they have so they can “justify” another “tax increase”.

    • dontdoitagain

      The government also needs that “road use” tax for scenic bicycle lanes and to improve “walkability”. Your own money is going to be used against you to close down lanes of vehicle traffic and turn them into footpaths. They are trying that here. (not Oregon, but close enough)

    • The Blue Collar Man

      Let’s do even MORE math.
      Tax per mile collected = budget available for Road Maintenance
      Then you deduct costs of road repairs, BUT then you deduct the costs of all the new workers required to run this program, (U) union barganing costs, yearly raises, retirement, and Health plans, surplus numbers of new workers so the program can run when very busy, or little work required when things keep travel to a minimum, and last, but not least, a barrage of new department heads and supervisors.And don’t forget, someone has to pay for the required spy equipment.
      I say it’s a money loser, and soon, cost to the public will have to INCREASE.

  • JdL

    Of course Big Brother would never use the information collected to build a database of where you are at all times of every day…

  • Silverado

    This IS a Democratic idea alright. The state, like the state to the north of it, is a bastion of Democratic, BIG govt idealism populated by a “watermelon majority” that not only votes for it….they want EVERYONE to have some of…what they got. Even whether they want it or not. Only these BIG govt types could sit around brain-storming tripe like this all the while getting paid to do it. The only way this stuff stops is when the system implodes and the phoney paper wealth known as the US Dollar makes this type of UN-Constitutional behavior impossible. To say that it’s way past time for the pitchforks and torches to have come out let alone getting some….use, would be the understatement of our time. The govt works better when it’s afraid of us. Not the other way around…

  • Larry Hall

    This is another way to keep track of our movements.Its aqll a bad dream that came true.So they cant afford to fix the roads but they can afford to buy enough devices to put on all the vehicles in the state to keep trck of their driving.Give me a break its big bro watching the sheepol.

  • tionico

    When a legitmate audit of ODOT is done (no. I’m not holding my breath for that to happen) by some entity with real business expertise, and the waste, make-work, excess “requriements” and such are duly noted, the budget for road maintenance could likely be cut in half, and the roads better maintained than they are now. A few examples I observe: prevaiing wage is mandated for every job. This is union protectionism, whether the contractor is union or not. End this practice, let the free market preail. WHY should a guy get $35=?hr to push a broom or “drive” a shovel .. especially with three others standing and watching (also at $35/hr) because union rules prohibit the shovel pusher from using the boom.. not his “job description”…..). Ending Prevailing Wage and “job restrictions” would cut labour drasticaly. Here at home, when the broom needs pushed I do it. When that’s done, I hop on the tractor and use it. That load is done, I then get into the truck and drive it. I don’t have three separate workers, all getting $35/hr all day long, even when the shoveller is waiting for the tractor to get done so he can shovel again.

    Silt and area temporary fencing. Hundreds of miles of these are placed every year…. nearly all of it useless, but “requried by law”. CHANGE the stupid laws to let the site manager determine where the silt fence is NEEDED…. and the orange web fence. I don’t know the cost per 1000 feet of this, but I see miles of it doing nothing, (“oh, but it’s REQUIRED….”) and left to foul the worksite when the job is done. This is STUPID WASTE

    And the list goes on…………. since its publically funded, there is no accountabilty of any significance, nor is there a limit to those public funds.

  • http://www.trutherator.wordpress.com/ Trutherator

    Uh oh, next step is a required permit and RFID tag to track all the mobile transportation in the city. Cops and feds won’t even have to use trackers! Uh oh….

  • mmm

    that would be fine, but claif. would still keep the .62 cent per gal gas tax we already pay on top of the new tax!!!

    • BillRind

      any government never got rid of a tax they didn’t love, because they lie to the tax payers all the time. i say hang them when they lie.

  • garyamusic .

    This is how government creates jobs………..create a new bureaucracy. The monies raised by this scam won’t even cover the payroll for this new bureaucracy let alone maintain any roadways. Now that QE has been shut down hold onto your hats folks…………more money grabs to come!

  • Stibbs11

    THIS IS INSANE ! ! !
    LEAVE OREGON

    Taxation without representation! yes, misrepresentation.
    How are they gonna give back the fuel tax? For_FU*K_SAKE ! ! !

  • BillRind

    Dont let them do this to you people in Oregon , this is big brother wanting to track your every movement. fire the entire legislature if they vote on this as for the DOT fire all the supervisors who put this big brother scheme into practice.

    • Boni Biggun

      OH, THE EPIC IRONY, as 99% of serfs in USAcorp have a phone/spy/tracking device…

      • BillRind

        I agree with you and thats why I personally dont own one, i will only use a satellite phone when i have to, all others are dangerous, but if you have to use one then at least put it in a protective EMP sleeve so the assholes in the marxist communist alphabet agencies cant tack your movements. when not in use. Or go back to a land line and install some electronic equipment on it that tells you if you are being tapped, whats good for the goosed is good for the gander, these agencies need to all go Phuck Off and start chasing down the real enemies of the nation such as the muslims that are here and are beginning to hack peoples heads off.

        • http://www.stevequayle.com/ Boni Biggun

          It’s too bad that “they” also have real time surveillance of the entire planet. They also have a LITERAL holographic replication of the entire planet & everything on, in & around it! From global weather systems to the smallest survival lean-to. From blades of grass to flocks of birds! I actually wish I was lying, because that’s just for starters! ((1st they have true A.I hybrid wetware ultra quantum “computers” ((not even really a computer, but it’s the closest approximation)) & 2nd they have endless-holographic/fractal-storage & endless free-energy capacity, to achieve a literal “real time replica of our reality!”))

          • BillRind

            all their electronic gear means nothing, as long as Russia can shut down one of our most advanced electronic warship and make it go dead, their hubris will go no where. we need to get back to God for his protection.

  • btruth

    Zombie goats love to be spied upon and tracked! They love thier slavery in USAcorp.

  • Roscoe

    They didn’t get 5000 volunteers. That’s all crap. If they had 5000 fools to pay a mileage tax they would name the idiots … Its all a lie.. I WILL NOT pay a per mile tax to travel on already paid for roads…….. The ONLY way they could get 5000 volunteers is if they are ALL ILLEGAL ALIENS………..

  • Rotor

    “As cars get more fuel efficient, gas tax revenue is going down,…”

    This is a BIG FAT LIE!

    Cars are NOT getting more fuel efficient and haven’t noticeably gotten any better since the 1980s. In fact, high gas mileage cars are banned for sale in the US. A Ford model sold only in Europe gets over 70 mpg. The VW Passad gets 78.5 MPG. Both are banned in the US.

    Why, you ask? Well, it has to do with “protecting” the corporate infrastructure. In other words, protecting Big Oil profits.

    The Oregon tax-happy controllers are looking for ways of growing government even bigger. Just know this, when government gets bigger, your rights become fewer. The idea to tax per mile opens up a can of worms in regards to privacy and a government that knows exactly where you’ve been. This means tracking devices will be on all Oregon cars.

  • ter ber

    Stop this now or forever hold your peace. Big brother is becoming Bigger by the second! Beholdapalehorse.tv

  • OldPoorRichard

    This is idiotic. The roads suffer greater damage from larger vehicles which consume more gas. To put it more accurately, road damage is proportional to weight per axle cubed. So large trucks do essentially all the damage. Just increase the gas tax. Especially on diesel. I totally oppose a miles-driven tax, but it there is a miles-driven tax, it should be based on GVW, not a flat per-mile tax for all vehicles.

  • Thebes de Hippie

    This “test” of the pleebs tolerance for tyranny has much less to do with revenue generation than it does with Big Brother’s desire to track everyone all of the time. Its not mentioned in this story but these schemes generally involve the State putting a GPS Tracker into every vehicle.

    • binaryloop

      Whoops! Did I accidentally overload the device and fried the GPS? I must have a 100 kV short in my electrical system somewhere.

  • J. Bailey

    Agenda 21 … rolling out like a lava flow … Coming up next: Carbon Tax …

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